" will be speaking with john mccain and rahm emanuel. brought to you as a public service by the networks and c- span. you can listen to them all starting at noon eastern. you can listen to apps on your blackberry, android, or iphone or go to c-span.org. >> you are watching live one of 10,000 homes that they are trying to get done in the next four years. these are houses that are never coming back. >> one-family every 20 minutes is moving out. >> moving out of detroit. these houses are this a pouring from the landscape. >> 90,000 right now ready to go. >> 164 firefighters were laid off as part of the downsizing, as part of the effort for the mayor to get the finances under control. firefighters, which detroit needs because i think it must have the highest case of arson in the country, these guys are laid off. it bought two weeks later, 100 guys are rehired. you look to find out where the money came from, it is actually the department of homeland's security that has a fund for things like that. i do not want to overstate, but that is something you want to think about. the department of common security